While we were reading Luke Chapter Ten the Lord made some connections to some of our own experiences, which gave a different view with regard to a connection between "The Good Samaritan" and the "Martha and Mary story." Additional insights on these scriptures, as they relate to the teachings we heard and learned in Cobu.
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Lk 10:5 Whatever house you enter, first say, 'Peace be to this house!'
Lk 10:6 And if a son of peace is there, your peace shall rest upon him; but if not, it shall return to you.
And indeed, this is how you greet everyone, you always extend peace, to those who are near and to those who are far off.
Peace I give to you my brother. Peace I give to you my sister.
Whether they have peace or not.
And soon it will become clear, whether or not they have peace, for if they do not have peace, they reject peace.
And this is why you were rejected.
For you came with a greeting of peace,
and they were not accustomed to it.
Jan Hilton couldn’t believe that she was rejected, for merely stating her experience, but there was peace in it, and they rejected it.
(After reading on Michael Montoya's xCobu Yahoo One List website,
~ that he and others on his site "had questions about our Living Water ministry"
~ Jan Hilton, who has been an active prayer partner in our ministry since 1989,
~ posted her testimony about some of her LW experiences.
~ A couple of days after she posted it,
~ and having received a personal email from a sister who very much appreciated what she shared,
~ she tried to log into Mike's site to see if anyone else posted a comment to her testimony.
~ She was shocked to not only be unable to log in,
~ but she was greeted with a "NO LONGER A MEMBER" message,
~ without receiving any warning, explanation, or conversation from Mike about doing this.
~ This is what was referred to in the prophesy, while reading John 10, about rejecting peace.
~ Dave and I had also responded to Mike Montoya's inquiry by posting our own Statement of Faith.
~ Two days later Mike posted a Public "Kiss-Off" letter on his site around 1 am.
~ Where he stated that "he would give us two days" to respond.
~ Stating that "if we didn't respond" it would PROVE that "we didn't submit to testing"
~ although, Mike did not keep his word,
~ because at noon, the same day he wrote his "Kiss-Off" letter, only 11 hours later,
~ he also gave Dave Simmons, Tod Burros, and Dan Cooper, the only other LW members on his site,
~ a: "NO LONGER A MEMBER", message,
~ where we were prevented access to his xCobu Yahoo website!
~ before any of us even got home from work, to try log in!
~ for doing nothing more "than taking the time to respond to his inquiry" about our ministry!
~ This is what the prophesy during our Luke 10 bible study today was referring to, about being rejected.
Seek peace, and pursue it, (Ps 34:14, 1 Pe 3:11) is the counsel of the scripture,
and yet their peace was so limited that they could not bear to hear your words,
though they said, “they had questions” what they really had, was: no peace.
(Cynthia: We were reading Luke chapter 10 and read down to verse 5 and 6: Whatever house you enter, first say, 'Peace be to this house!'
And if a son of peace is there, your peace shall rest upon him; but if not, it shall return to you.)
Lk 10:23 Then turning to the disciples he said privately, "Blessed are the eyes which see what you see!
And I say unto you my children,
~ “Blessed are your eyes, that see what you see.” (Mt 13:17)
~ “Blessed are your eyes, that have seen a way of escape!” (2 Pe 1:4)
~ "That have seen a way of escape, from the Baptism of Stewart Traill!"
~ "That have been released from the voices that plague the minds and hearts and souls of many!"
(Ac 19:3, Lk 12:50, Lk 3:21, Ac 19:3-5, 1 Co 10:2)
~ Would that they had the faith to seek a blessing!
~ To say, “I need a blessing!” “I want a blessing!” “Give me a blessing!” “Where is the blessing?” “She got a blessing, I want a blessing!”
~ Would that they had the faith to even say these few words, “I want a blessing” four words!
~ Would that they knew where to get one.
~ Would that they did not live in the pride of their own hearts. (Dave: Man!)
~ Would that they were not overtaken by the demons within them, that do not WANT to be displaced. (Dave: Yup!)
~ That cleave for the purchase that they have.
~ And what is a demon? It is a spirit, that prevents one, from coming to see the Lord his God.
(Mt 12:43-45, Lk 11:24-26, Mk 1:23-27, Lk 4:33-37)
(Cynthia: Once, while ministering to a brother with the annointing of oil and prayer,
And there is power, in exposing, that they live in the darkness that they chose from the beginning.
And there is power, in saying, that it takes faith:
~ to walk outside of a comfort zone,
~ and latch onto something that might bring peace!
~ That might bring: refreshment!
~ That might bring: light into a place of darkness! (Dave: Yes!)
~ That might bring: healing in the place of pain!
~ That might bring: calm in the place of chaos!
~ Peace in the place of a tortured spirit!
This is the power of God in your ministry, to which they fear.
And I say, pray for them all the more, that they might have the faith to say, “I want a blessing.”
(Mt 6:Lk 11:1-4, Lk 18:1, Lk 18:9-14, Rm 8:26, Col 1:9)
~ Lift them up, and say: “Lord God!” (Everyone: Lord God!)
~ Help these ones who are tortured! (Everyone: Help these ones who are tortured!)
~ Whether they admit to the torture or not. (Everyone: Whether they admit to the torture or not.)
~ Help them to ask… (Everyone: Help them to ask…)
~ I need a blessing! (Everyone: I need a blessing!)
~ Help them to recognize! (Everyone: Help them to recognize!)
~ That they need a blessing. (Everyone: That they need a blessing!)
~ And those who WERE blessed! (Everyone: And those who were blessed!)
~ Who KNEW they were blessed! (Everyone: Who knew they were blessed!)
~ And yet, let doubt come in. (Everyone: And yet, let doubt come in!)
~ And robbed them of peace! (Everyone: And robbed them of peace!)
~ Peace that they KNOW they experienced! (Everyone: Peace that they know they experienced.)
~ Help them to seek it again. (Everyone: Help them to seek it again.)
~ Would that they sought peace! Would that they sought peace! (Everyone: Would that they sought peace!)
~ Blessed are those who seek peace and pursue it! (Everyone: Blessed are those who seek peace and pursue it!.)
(Ps 34:14, 1 Pe 3:11)
~ Let them be blessed, Lord God. (Everyone: Let them be blessed, Lord God!)(Jan: Yes Lord God!)
~ Let your blessings come! (Everyone: Let your blessings come!)(Tod: Yes Lord God, let your blessings come!)
(Cynthia: That was after reading Luke chapter 10, down to verse 23:
Then turning to the disciples he said privately, "Blessed are the eyes which see what you see!)
Lk 10:24 For I tell you that many prophets and kings desired to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it."
And so I say unto you my children,
~ “Pray that their ears might be open to hear what you hear.
~ To see what you see.
~ To be able to recognize the Baptism of Stewart that they have accepted,
~ that continues to plague their lives.
(Cynthia: That was after reading down to verse 24.)
Lk 10:27 And he answered, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and with all your mind; and your neighbor as yourself."
Indeed! Was not this the counsel that Dave gave to Chris Blaise when he said: “that he wanted to go in another direction?”
He (Dave) said (to Chris), “Wherever the Lord is leading you, do it with all your heart, with all your mind, and with all your strength.”
(Deu 4:29, Deu 6:5, Deu 10:12, Deu 11:13, Deu 26:16, Deu 30:2, 6, 10, Jos 22:5, 1 Sa 12:20, 1 Sa 12:24, Jer 29:13, Mt 22:37, Mk 12:30, Lk 10:27, Eph 5:19)
And if Chris would have sought THAT scripture, he would have found: “and to love your neighbor” (Cynthia: as yourself!)
(Mt 5:43, Mt 19:9, Mt 22:39, Mk 12:31, Rm 13:9, Gal 5:14, Jas 2:8
For was not Chris, after years of your dedication to him and his families blessing, was he not rejecting you? (Dave: Yes Lord, he was.)
(Gal 6:10, Pe 4:17, Heb 12:14, Heb 12:25)
And did he not reject you again, (Dave: Yes.) at the (xCobu) Reunion and at his home afterward? (Everyone: Yes)
Did he not “Neglect to love his neighbor, as himself?” (Dave: Yes he sure did.)
(Lk 11:42, 1 Ti 4:14, Heb 2:3, Heb 13:2 & 16)
When you went to visit him and he did not spare you a moment of his time!
Lk 10:29 But he, desiring to justify himself, said to Jesus, "And who is my neighbor?"
Yes, indeed! Who is your neighbor? Is it only those who you want to impress?
(Eph 6:6, Mt 6:1, Lk 6:34-35 & 38)
But I say unto you my children, the Lord your God is in your midst.
And he has given you a double portion of peace! (Is 61:7)
(Everyone: Wow!)(Dave: Thank you Father.)
Let he who has peace, embrace it all the more! (Pro 4:8, Ecc 3:5)
For it is the peace of the Lord your God, that gives you the strength, to show compassion, on those who have no compassion.
(Cynthia: Wow! Dave: Man! Cynthia: That was after reading: Luke 10:29)
Lk 10:33 But a Samaritan, as he journeyed, came to where he was; and when he saw him, he had compassion,
And see my daughter, how I opened your eyes, to what would be the fruit, of peace:
It is compassion, my children.
For the priest, had none! (Dave: Yup)
And the Levite, had none!
And if you, or one of your loved ones:
~ was beaten,
~ and kicked into the side of the road,
~ and had no strength to lift themselves,
~ who would you desire to happen by?
You would desire to have someone pass by who had: compassion! (Dave: Yup)(Jan: Uh huh)
Who would not judge by the ripped and dirty clothing, but would say unto themselves:
“This person needs help.” “If I pass by, they will die.”
And, even if they don’t have it in them to touch one that is in that state,
perhaps they would have it in them to at least phone for assistance. (Jan: Um hum)
But, to turn your back, to turn a blind eye, upon one who is suffering.
Would that those who read your Website, would read it with their eyes open.
Would that those who read your Website, would open their eyes.
For sometimes, it is the reader themselves, who is in need for a blessing.
And would that they took one! (Dave: um)
Would that they sought one! (Dave: Yes.)
Would that they got on their email and said, “I need a blessing. Where can I get it?”
And what was your church (Cobu) known for?
(Jan: Bullying! [laughed]) (Dave: Street preaching and Bible understanding, "supposedly")
What was it really known for?
(Dan: Annoying.)(Dave: [laughed]) (Jan: Oppressing.)
It was a house that was filled with priests and Levites, who walked by when someone was in pain.
(Jan: Yeah. No compassion.)
~ And worse!
~ And worse than that!
~ They were known to go over and kick.. (Jan: Yeah, and beat..)
~ One who was down! (Jan: Yes, beat the one that’s down.)
~ And throw the Lords name at them, like a curse. (Jan: um hum)
And, if the one on the ground said,
~ “I am bloody"
~ "I am beaten"
~ "I have been wounded in the house of my fellows!” (Zec 13:6)
~ and scoff,
~ and kick,
~ and bite,
~ and laugh,
~ and scorn, at the one who was down on the ground!
It was always “funny” till when?
~ (Cynthia: Till it was you.)
~ (Dave: Until it was you.)
~ (Jan: Till they were the one being kicked.)
Untill it happened to you, and then it wasn’t funny!
And many left over this treatment.
And many more survived, their wounds healed up enough, that they could function,
and THEY went back to being the priests and Levites! (Jan: Um hum)
Doing the very thing that they despised when it was done to them!
~ Institutional oppression!
~ Institutional violence!
~ And a serial lack of compassion!
And that, again, is being kind!
A lack of compassion, implies passivity!
[Def. serial – 1. consisting of, forming part of, or taking place in a series. 2. (of a criminal) repeatedly committing the same offense and typically following a characteristic, predictable behavior pattern. Seeing the same actions being portrayed over and over again.]
[Def. implies – to strongly suggest the truth or existence of something not expressly stated. Synonyms: insinuate, suggest, hint (at), intimate, say indirectly, indicate, convey the impression]
[Def. passivity – allowing others to do things to you without complaining or pushing back]
He (Stewart Traill) lacked compassion! No! Cobu people smell blood when you’re hurt! It’s a green light for them!
(showing the attitude: ) “I can get some free kicks in ~ for Jesus!”
And they prove that they know nothing!
Because what is lame is not put back into joint, but it is separated further! (Dave: Man)
And this is also why they despised you! Because you wanted to put back, that which was out of joint. (Heb 12:13)
(showing the attitude) :
~ “We don’t need no education!”
~ “We don’t need no “thought” control!”
~ “We like our “dark sarcasms” in the classroom!”
~ “Living Water, leave us alone!”
(Cynthia: That was still after reading Luke 10 down to verse 33: But a Samaritan, as he journeyed, came to where he was; and when he saw him, he had compassion,)
Lk 10:33 But a Samaritan, as he journeyed, came to where he was; and when he saw him, he had compassion,
Lk 10:34 and went to him and bound up his wounds, pouring on oil and wine; then he set him on his own beast and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
Lk 10:35 And the next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper, saying, 'Take care of him; and whatever more you spend, I will repay you when I come back.'
Lk 10:36 Which of these three, do you think, proved neighbor to the man who fell among the robbers?"
And I say to you, my children, “Who went and spent time with Debbie, when Chris was a death’s door?”
For you did not go there for an hour,
~ but you went,
~ and got a hotel,
~ and stayed with them,
~ and sat with them,
~ and gave them food,
~ and comforted them when they cried.
And they repaid you evil for good. (Dave: Yup)(Jan: um hum)
And this was why Tod said they were ‘backstabbers.’
(Gen 44:4, 1 Sa 25:21, Ps 35:12, Ps 38:20, Ps 109:5, Pro 17:9, Pro 17:13)
For you were like the Samaritan.
~ You bought them a hotel room when they needed rest.
~ You spent time with them.
~ You stood by them,
~ in the midst of their devastation.
Which of these proved the neighbor?
~ I say to you, it is those who took thought,
~ and who did unto them as they would have done for them. (Mt 7:12)
(Cynthia: That was after reading down to Luke 10:36)
Lk 10:36 Which of these three, do you think, proved neighbor to the man who fell among the robbers?"
Lk 10:37 He said, "The one who showed mercy on him." And Jesus said to him, "Go and do likewise."
Lk 10:38 Now as they went on their way, he entered a village; and a woman named Martha received him into her house.
Lk 10:39 And she had a sister called Mary, who sat at the Lord's feet and listened to his teaching.
Lk 10:40 But Martha was distracted with much serving; and she went to him and said, "Lord, do you not care that my sister has left me to serve alone? Tell her then to help me."
Lk 10:41 But the Lord answered her, "Martha, Martha, you are anxious and troubled about many things;
Lk 10:42 one thing is needful. Mary has chosen the good portion, which shall not be taken away from her."
But I say unto you my children, this was twisted in Cobu. (Jan: um hum)
And why was it twisted?
~ Because although the Lord commended Mary,
~ for sitting at his feet and listening,
~ Cobu expected everyone to be Martha. (Dave: Yup)
~ And then, once you were Martha,
~ you were condemned for “being” Martha! (Everyone giggled)
(Jan: That’s so true!)
He did not condemn Martha. (Dave: No. Jan: No.)
He recognized that Mary wanted to draw near to listen. To draw near to learn.
And there is a time for everything under heaven. (Ecc 3:1-10) (Dave: Yes.)
The Samaritan, did “as Martha!”
~ He picked up the man who was beaten.
~ He took him to an inn,
~ and spent a night with him!
~ He spent his money,
~ to bless the man!
It’s an act of service, as Martha did an act of service.
But I say unto you, my children, what the Lord was doing here, was redirecting Martha, not to complain about what SHE chose to do. (Dave: Right.)
~ “Let those who are cheerful, rejoice!”
~ “Let those who have a desire to pray, pray!” (Jas 5:13)
~ “Let those who have a desire to “do this” to DO that!” (2 Co 9:7)
But it doesn’t say,
~ “Tell everybody else what they “should be doing”
~ just because you’re doing it!”
(Dave: Right. Jan: Yeah)
“If you’re moved to bless, THAN BLESS!”
“If you are moved, to do the “prison diet” (extremely restricted diet) than DO the prison diet!”
Martha was compelled to tell someone else what to do with their freedom,
and the Lord was saying,“NO!"
~ "If you want to serve, rejoice in your service!”
~ “If you want to pray, rejoice in your prayer!”
~ “If the Lord God of Hosts, puts it upon your heart to be a blessing, than BE a blessing!”
~ But DO NOT put your limitations on someone else! (Lam 3:36)
Because you do not know what the Lord God is saying to that soul. (Jan: Yeah)
And whatever Mary was absorbing, in her listening, might have been necessary for what she was gonna face 3 days down, (Dave: Yup) two years down.
Do not presume upon yourselves to know what someone else should do with their strengths and their weaknesses.
Cobu was all about telling everybody else: what to do!
(Dave: Yup, hump, boy!)(Cynthia: Some are still stuck in that grip!)
And would that they would have seen, that this was what the Lord was saying to Martha.
“Martha, if you want to serve, serve! It’s a blessing that you serve!”
How many women were commended throughout “the Letter’s” by Paul,
for their service among them? (Php 4:3, Mt 27:55, Mk 15:41)
Many! It was commendable that they served.
But this falls under the category of:
~ “No one shall tell his neighbor, this is the Lord, for each of them shall know him, from the least of them to the greatest! (Heb 8:11)
(Dave: Amen to that! Man!)
But just pray that God open your eyes, to know what he’s asking of you. (Mt 13:15,16)
To open your ears, to hear what he’s asking of you. (Mt 11:15, Mt 13:9, Mk 4:23, Mk 8:18)
This is wisdom. (Jas 1:5)
(Cynthia: So we read to the end of Luke 10, down to verse 42, which was the last verse of this chapter.)
In another "box" above, an incident of "rejections" extended by Michael Montoya and his xCobu Yahoo website, toward our ministry: Living Water, were referred to during this Luke Chapter Ten Bible study.
Michael Montoya challenged us to "PROVE ourselves" on his Website, and then excluded us from it. His letter was able to be seen by, as Michael stated: The Largest xCobu audience that there is while we had no access to his site at all.
So, a few of us wrote replies to Michael's letter and posted them here on our Website. If you have any interest in reading any of these replies just click on any of the links below. It should be noted here that Michael Montoya has not responded to any of these replies to the public post that he made to us on his xCobu Yahoo Website, although he was made aware of them at the time that each one was posted here.
Michael Montoya challenged us to "PROVE ourselves" on his Website, and then excluded us from it.
His letter was able to be seen by, as Michael stated: The Largest xCobu audience that there is while we had no access to his site at all.
So, a few of us wrote replies to Michael's letter and posted them here on our Website.
If you have any interest in reading any of these replies just click on any of the links below.
It should be noted here that Michael Montoya has not responded to any of these replies to the public post that he made to us on his xCobu Yahoo Website, although he was made aware of them at the time that each one was posted here.